So far so good…. +31.99 for the PLO8 experiment. I finally had my first crash n’ burned session. I wont go into much details about that one hand. Basically I ran my $25 up to $64 or so. All of the sudden, I couldn’t let go of “this hand” in which it got potted TWICE on the turn. A major scoop by one player in which he had $135 (started from $25?). Guess sometimes having the 2nd nut low/high aint gonna do it….
One good hand this past weekend….
***** Hand History for Game 3059648259 *****
0/0 Omaha Hi/Lo Game Table (PL) - Sat Nov 19 07:32:46 EST 2005
Table Table 65857 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: hottrick ( $25)
Seat 2: sukoutdotcom ( $19.27)
Seat 3: obdachloser ( $25.45)
Seat 4: glmi444 ( $11.65)
Seat 5: gabjma ( $46.92)
Seat 6: mustbesweet ( $68.31)
Seat 7: LeeLay ( $19.84)
Seat 8: MaxSquat ( $26.35)
Seat 9: MYBONNIE ( $19.20)
Seat 10: ajm1975 ( $23.22)
MYBONNIE posts small blind (0.10)
ajm1975 posts big blind (0.25)
hottrick posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MaxSquat [ 9c, 2s, Ah, 8c ]
hottrick checks.
sukoutdotcom folds.
obdachloser folds.
gabjma folds.
mustbesweet calls (0.25)
LeeLay folds.
MaxSquat calls (0.25)
MYBONNIE folds.
ajm1975 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, Tc, 3c ]
ajm1975 checks.
hottrick checks.
mustbesweet checks.
MaxSquat bets (0.75)
ajm1975 folds.
hottrick folds.
mustbesweet calls (0.75)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
mustbesweet checks.
MaxSquat bets (2.50)
mustbesweet calls (2.50)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
mustbesweet checks.
MaxSquat bets (7.25)
mustbesweet calls (7.25)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $21 Rake: $1.10
Board: [ 7d Tc 3c Qh 5c ]
mustbesweet balance $57.56, lost $10.75 [ 4d 7c As 9s ] [ LO: 7,5,4,3,A HI: a pair of sevens -- As,Qh,Tc,7c,7d ]
MaxSquat balance $36.60, bet $10.75, collected $21, net +$10.25 [ 9c 2s Ah 8c ] [ LO: 7,5,3,2,A HI: a flush, ten high -- Tc,9c,8c,5c,3c ]
Must be sweet to be an idiot to chase 2nd nut low when the bet was potted to him at the turn and river.
Looking back at that 2399 hand that was posted previously…I got some good feed back from the guru at 2+2:
" Horrible preflop. Don't play this at all, much less to a raise."
"I'm just a begginer at this game but to me:
pre-flop, this looks bad. If you want to limp late on in a loose game then I can kind of see it. But, when the big raise comes back to you it's time to get out.
turn, doesn't look so bad but it depends on the guy going allin. If there were any significant number of callers before you then I'm not sure it's a call. But you get HU with a nut low draw and flush draw. You're getting about 5-1 which seems ok? But they are weak draws, the low could be counterfeit/miss and the flush is a long way short of nut. I think you can call HU tho."
"If we ignore the preflop play, post flop, shoving is fine if and only if you think your flush draw is good.
There is never anything wrong with shoving a low draw and flush draw on the flop so long as both draws are good. If someone has a higher flush draw you're in trouble big time, which is why nut flush draws are always the best.
Your hand post flop plays well with 1 opponent or multiple opponents so long as no-one has a higher flush draw. I would have no problems shoving on that flop from time to time if the table is full of calling stations. There are very few hands that dominate you here which is the important thing to note."
I then made a comment: Thanks for some of your feedback guys.. I'm still learning a thing or two about PLO8. I've decided to take it a little more serious after a year of LO8.
The only reason, I limped in is because of position (late). The table was a bunch of preflop limpers, no one was raising preflop. The raiser just busted out 2 hands ago. He brought back in for $5 and raised preflop and everyone folded to him. Then the very next hand (this one), he did it again. Whether he was on tilt or had a good hand, I dont know. With 4 other people in the pot calling the preflop raise, I thought I'd gamble a little bit to see if anything hit. If not, then simply would fold at the flop. That is what it takes to be a little successful isnt it? Gamble and mix up your play a little bit rather than july play only premium hands?
Ribbo, the famous PLO8 guru, wrote: “Position is no excuse to make bad calls preflop. The limp was fine, but when it is potted behind you, you let the hand go. If you don't learn to do this, you will never be a winner. PLO8 is a very mechanical game at low limits, almost all bets are for value and there is very little scope for personal flair (bluffing etc) due to the large proportion of calling stations. You proved that point yourself with your preflop call where you should have folded.”
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Somethings just make me think about my plays, hand selection, and etc…